Kentucky Derby odds: New favorite in Vegas ... and Nysos?

Photo: Circa Sports

Dornoch replaced Fierceness as the Las Vegas futures favorite for Kentucky Derby 2024, but it was a horse not among the 192 betting choices who made noise from the outside.

Nysos, who won by 7 1/2 lengths Saturday in the Grade 3 Robert B. Lewis Stakes at Santa Anita, would have soared into the favorite’s role if only he were eligible for the Derby.

“I probably would have Nysos around 8-1 to 10-1,” said Paul Zilm, who writes the racing futures at Circa in downtown Las Vegas.

Caesars would have shortened him even more.

“Probably 4-1,” said Paul Bach, the racing specialist at Caesars. “Maybe a hard look at 7-2. It was pretty impressive.”

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Nysos was 23-1 at Circa and 15-1 at Caesars just before his trainer Bob Baffert told the Los Angeles Times early last week that he and his client owners would not move any of his 3-year-olds to stables that are welcome in the Derby. Baffert remains under an indefinite Churchill Downs suspension that began when Medina Spirit failed a post-Derby drug test in 2021.

Bach said Caesars would have “bumped all other contenders a couple points” if Nysos still had been in the futures market.

Fierceness, the Eclipse Award winner who finished third as the 1-5 favorite Saturday in the Holy Bull (G3) at Gulfstream Park, drifted from 9-1 to 13-1 at Circa Sports and from 8-1 to 10-1 at Caesars Sportsbook to become the second choice in Las Vegas.

Dornoch, the Remsen (G2) winner who is expected to make his 2024 debut next month in the Fountain of Youth (G2) at Gulfstream, shortened Wednesday into the consensus favorite’s role in Nevada. Circa cut him from 15-1 to 9-1. Caesars took him from 10-1 to 17-2, or plus 850.

Even with the change at the top, Zilm and Bach were not reading any market panic into Fierceness’s disappointing performance Saturday.

“I need to see another clunker from Fierceness before I (lengthen his odds) too far,” Zilm said. “We have decent liability on him, and he’s got the (Derby qualifying) points and likely will accrue more.

If Nysos remained in the market, Circa would have put “Fierceness likely up closer to 15-1 or 16-1,” Zilm said, adding that other contenders shorter than 25-1 might have been priced with longer odds.

Three of the Derby prep winners Saturday were among the biggest market movers this week. Holy Bull upset victor Hades was posted at 90-1 at Caesars and was shortened from 175-1 to 23-1 at Circa. Uncle Heavy opened at 150-1 at Circa and 125-1 at Caesars thanks to his triumph in the Withers (G3) at Aqueduct. Mystik Dan was cut from 125-1 to 95-1 at Caesars and from 200-1 to 50-1 at Circa after he splashed to victory in the Southwest (G3) at Oaklawn.

Four horses were added and 19 dropped in the past week, leaving these 192 in the Kentucky Derby futures for Nevada bettors at Caesars Sportsbook and Circa Sports. They are listed in order of their best odds Wednesday morning.

 Kentucky Derby 2024 Caesars Circa Last race, track
Dornoch +850    9-11st Remsen (G2), AQU
Fierceness  10-1  13-13rd Holy Bull (G3), GP
Sierra Leone  15-1  16-12nd Remsen (G2), AQU
Track Phantom  15-1  16-11st Lecomte (G3), FG
Locked  15-1  18-13rd BC Juvenile, SA
Snead  28-1  25-12nd Gun Runner, FG
Hall of Fame  30-1  30-11st MSW, FG
Knightsbridge  22-1  32-11st MSW, CD
Timberlake  25-1  32-14th BC Juvenile, SA
Book'em Danno (g)  25-1  40-11st Pasco, TAM
Conquest Warrior  30-1  40-11st MSW, GP
Forever Young   40-11st Nisai Yushun, KAW
Honor Marie  40-1  30-11st Ky. Jockey Club (G2), CD
Resilience  40-1  40-11st MSW, GP
Amante Bianco   50-11st Cattleya, TOK
Born Noble  60-1  40-12nd alw OC, GP
Catching Freedom  50-1  60-11st Smarty Jones, OP
Just a Touch  60-1  22-11st MSW, FG
Nash  30-1  60-12nd Lecomte (G3), FG
The Wine Steward  40-1  70-12nd Breeders' Fut. (G1), KEE
Air of Defiance  75-1 1st MSW, KEE
Carbone  75-1  50-17th Southwest (G3), OP
Change of Command  75-1  65-11st alw OC, GP
Just Steel  75-1  70-12nd Southwest (G3), OP
Parchment Party  75-1 1st alw OC, CD
Liberal Arts  75-1  80-13rd Southwest (G3), OP
Otello  75-1  80-16th Holy Bull (G3), GP
Real Macho   80-11st alw OC, GP
Rhyme Schemes  85-1 1st Sar. Special (G2), SAR
Stretch Ride  85-1  70-13rd Ky. Jockey Club (G2), CD
Domestic Product  90-1  40-12nd Holy Bull (G3), GP
Hades (g)  90-1  30-11st Holy Bull (G3), GP
Mystik Dan  95-1  60-11st Southwest (G3), OP
Agate Road 100-12nd Dania Beach, GP (t)
Bergen100-1100-11st Jimmy Winkfield, AQU
Cardinale 100-12nd alw OC, GP
Crushed It100-1100-12nd MSW, OP
Elysian Meadows 100-11st alw OC, AQU
Ethan Energy  75-1100-14th Lecomte (G3), FG
Pirate100-1 3rd Hopeful (G1), SAR
Real Men Violin100-1100-12nd Ky. Jockey Club (G2), CD
Stronghold  90-1100-12nd Los Al Futurity (G2), LRC
El Grande O125-1100-12nd Withers (G3), AQU
General Partner125-1 6th BC Juvenile, SA
Imperial Gun100-1125-11st MSW, OP
Informed Patriot100-1125-13rd Smarty Jones, OP
Molly's Town (g)125-1 5th Advent, OP
Nutella Fella125-1 1st Hopeful (G1), SAR
Pass the Hat125-1 1st MSW, ELP
Seize the Grey100-1125-13rd alw OC, KEE
Speak Easy125-1  90-11st MSW, GP
Time for Truth125-1100-11st MSW, OP
Tuscan Sky  80-1125-11st MSW, AQU
Ari's Magic 150-11st MSW, TAM
Coulditbemajic150-1 5th alw OC, CD
Deterministic150-1125-11st MSW, SAR
Fifth Avenue150-1 1st MSW, ELP
Frankie's Empire150-1 1st Swale, FG
Gold Sweep150-1 6th alw OC, OP
Lat Long 150-13rd Lecomte (G3), FG
Merit150-1150-13rd alw OC, GP
Otto the Conqueror150-1125-16th Southwest (G3), OP
Rathmore150-1 3rd Pasco, TAM
Risk It150-1125-15th Swale, FG
Rocketeer125-1150-11st MSW, KEE
Secret Chat150-1 2nd Aventura, GP
Self Sufficient150-1 3rd Aventura, GP
The Big Torpedo150-1 1st MSW, AQU
Turn Up the Trees 150-11st MSW, GP
Uncle Heavy125-1150-11st Withers (G3), AQU
Union Roll150-1 7th Iroquois (G3), CD
Wilson Q150-1 2nd Bashford Manor, ELP
Alder (g)175-1 2nd alw OC, FG
Balta175-1 1st alw OC, CD
Catire Vizcaya175-1 10th Rocky Run, DEL
Edified175-1 5th alw OC, KEE
Lightline100-1175-13rd Withers (G3), AQU
Maycocks Bay 175-11st alw OC, FG
Vitement 175-11st alw OC, FG (t)
Awesome Road150-1200-14th Southwest (G3), OP
Be You150-1200-15th MSW, GP
Booth150-1200-15th Ed Brown, CD
Commissioner Dan200-1 1st MSW, KEE
Common Defense175-1200-15th Southwest (G3), OP
Crimson Light 200-11st MSW, AQU
Divieto200-1 8th Ed Brown, CD
Encino 200-11st MSW, TP (aw)
Generous Tipper 200-13rd Breeders' Fut. (G1), KEE
Glengarry150-1200-12nd Springboard Mile, RP
Go Otto Go200-1 6th alw OC, HOU
Going Mobile200-1 5th Golden St. Juvenile, SA
Kitty Hawk (g) 200-11st MSW, CD
Le Dom Bro200-1 2nd Swale, FG
Mary's Boy Bolt200-1 5th Del Mar Fut. (G1), DMR
My Boy Prince 200-13rd BC Juvenile Turf, SA (t)
Next Level 200-12nd alw OC, OP
Orange Diablo150-1200-12nd MSW, OP
Private Desire200-1 10th Remsen (G2), AQU
Roar Ready200-1 2nd allowance, GP
Scatify125-1200-13rd Robert B. Lewis, SA
The Donegal Clan 200-11st alw OC, FG
The Process200-1 6th alw OC, GP (t)
West Saratoga100-1200-12nd Pasco, TAM
Wind Rider 200-11st MSW, CD
Epic Ride 225-11st Leonatus, TP (aw)
No More Time150-1225-15th Mucho Macho Man, GP
Better Than Gold200-1250-16th Robert B. Lewis, SA
Bonne Chance (g)250-1 6th, opt claiming, AQU
Call Me Andy250-1 4th Md. Juvenile, LRL
Can Group 250-16th Lecomte (G3), FG
Capital Idea125-1250-11st MSW, AQU
Catalytic150-1250-11st MSW, GP
Crazy Mason250-1200-11st alw OC, TAM
Doncho (g)125-1250-11st MSW, FG
El Magnifico (r) 250-14th MSW, OP
First World War125-1250-11st Kitten's Joy (G3), GP (t)
Goldbrick125-1250-11st MSW, OP
Good Money150-1250-11st MSW, TAM
Hop Sing 250-12nd MSW, AQU
Inveigled200-1250-14th Holy Bull (G3), GP
Legalize150-1250-17th Swale, FG
Moonlight100-1250-14th Remsen (G2), AQU
Slider 250-13rd San Vicente (G2), SA
Tennessee 250-11st MSW, TP (aw)
Tireless 250-11st MSW, TAM
Twenty to Park 250-11st MSW, OP
Lucky Jeremy150-1275-11st R. Allison Derby, SUN
Ridgewood Runner 275-11st MSW, AQU
Billal200-1300-14th Swale, FG
Crafted200-1300-16th, R. Allison Derby, SUN
Django 300-16th MSW, CD
Footprint 300-13rd alw OC, OP
General Ledger200-1300-11st alw, GP (aw)
Hawks Creek 300-15th alw OC, FG
Heart Headed 300-11st opt claiming, SA
Khanate 300-15th Withers (G3), AQU
Moonlit Sonata200-1300-15th Robert B. Lewis, SA
Normandy Hero150-1300-16th Renaissance, OP
Northern Flame125-1300-11st alw OC, OP
Patriot Spirit150-1300-11st Inaugural, TAM
Raging Torrent200-1300-16th Springboard Mile, RP
Stay Hot (r) 300-11st C.B. DeMille (G3), DMR (t)
Stolen Magic200-1300-15th Jimmy Winkfield, AQU
Valentine Candy100-1300-11st Renaissance, OP
West Omaha (f) 300-11st Silverbulletday, FG
Bentornato125-1350-13rd FTBOA In Reality, GP
Dancing Groom200-1350-15th Holy Bull (G3), GP
Gettysburg Address 350-14th alw OC, OP
Hunt Ball 350-15th MSW, AQU
Ignite the Light 350-14th MSW, AQU
Iridescent200-1350-12nd Jimmy Winkfield, AQU
Justifreak 350-14th MSW, FG
Lagynos 350-16th Smarty Jones, OP
Noted150-1350-17th Kitten's Joy (G3), GP (t)
Pandagate (r)150-1350-13rd alw OC, LRL
Raguel 350-13rd alw OC, GP
Redeposit 350-12nd MSW, FG
Refocus 350-14th Graduation, DMR
Run Jalen Run 350-12nd MSW, OP
Searcy (g) 350-19th alw OC, OP
Ship to Shore (g) 350-11st Limestone, GP
Speed Runner 350-16th Withers (G3), AQU
Tapalo 350-11st maiden OC, SA
Tejon Pass150-1350-15th alw OC, OP
Texas Town 350-11st MSW, OP
Top Gun Rocket 350-18th MSW, CD
Vote No 350-15th Leonatus, TP (aw)
Wecallemfuncoupons (g) 350-12nd opt clmg, AQU
Who Dey125-1350-11st alw OC, CD
Works for Me 350-11st Notebook, AQU
Abrumar 400-11st alw OC, GP (t)
Aggelos the Great 400-16th alw OC, AQU
Agoo250-1400-13rd Sugar Bowl, FG
American Rascal200-1400-12nd Sugar Bowl, FG
Antonio of Venice 400-12nd Rego Park, AQU
Assurbanipal 400-11st newcomer, TOK
Blown Cover 400-12nd alw OC, FG
Boltage 400-14th San Vicente (G2), SA
Bonus Move 400-13rd MSW, GP
Carpis (g) 400-12nd La. Futurity, FG
El Dinero (g) 400-11st Premier Prince, DED
Eliminate 400-14th MSW, AQU
Endlessly 400-18th BC Juvenile Turf, SA (t)
Eusebius 400-14th MSW, TP (aw)
Give Me a Reason 400-15th MSW, OP
Last Call London (g) 400-13rd Cal Cup Derby, SA
Mikealicious 400-15th alw OC, OP
Mischief Joke 400-11st Rego Park, AQU
Mission Beach 400-17th Withers (G3), AQU
Mosaico Man 400-11st MSW, FG
Move to Gold 400-11st Awad, BAQ (t)
Regalo200-1400-14th Jerome, AQU
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